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	<title>Comments on: Where are the Rails developers?</title>
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		<title>By: Neil Blakey-Milner</title>
		<link>http://www.nickcoyne.com/wp/2007/04/03/where-are-the-rails-developers/#comment-82</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil Blakey-Milner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I&#039;m not the biggest fan of Ruby or Ruby on Rails, I might&#039;ve bitten if I didn&#039;t already have a job programming Python.

Finding _any_ sort of good programmer is hard at the moment - it&#039;s not that the skills don&#039;t exist, but that they&#039;re generally already deployed and they&#039;re not the ones getting fired or made to leave.

Two of my former employers have spent months looking for good PHP programmers - you&#039;d think there&#039;d be more of them around given that there are more PHP programmers out there - but they&#039;ve met with pretty low interest, and the interest they did get wasn&#039;t of the standard they wanted.

So, don&#039;t give up, and be sure it&#039;s not that your choice of technology is limiting you.  (I&#039;d hate to see someone regress to a lowest-common-denominator language...)

Neil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I&#8217;m not the biggest fan of Ruby or Ruby on Rails, I might&#8217;ve bitten if I didn&#8217;t already have a job programming Python.</p>
<p>Finding _any_ sort of good programmer is hard at the moment &#8211; it&#8217;s not that the skills don&#8217;t exist, but that they&#8217;re generally already deployed and they&#8217;re not the ones getting fired or made to leave.</p>
<p>Two of my former employers have spent months looking for good PHP programmers &#8211; you&#8217;d think there&#8217;d be more of them around given that there are more PHP programmers out there &#8211; but they&#8217;ve met with pretty low interest, and the interest they did get wasn&#8217;t of the standard they wanted.</p>
<p>So, don&#8217;t give up, and be sure it&#8217;s not that your choice of technology is limiting you.  (I&#8217;d hate to see someone regress to a lowest-common-denominator language&#8230;)</p>
<p>Neil</p>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
		<link>http://www.nickcoyne.com/wp/2007/04/03/where-are-the-rails-developers/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:41:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A permanent position. We&#039;re hoping to find someone with 2-4 yrs of experience, with PHP plus random other languages. My posting to CLUG is at http://lists.clug.org.za/pipermail/clug-work/2007-March/000341.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A permanent position. We&#8217;re hoping to find someone with 2-4 yrs of experience, with PHP plus random other languages. My posting to CLUG is at <a href="http://lists.clug.org.za/pipermail/clug-work/2007-March/000341.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.clug.org.za/pipermail/clug-work/2007-March/000341.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Stii</title>
		<link>http://www.nickcoyne.com/wp/2007/04/03/where-are-the-rails-developers/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>Stii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 10:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So as a matter of interest, what do you offer money wise? Is it a contractual job or a permanent position?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So as a matter of interest, what do you offer money wise? Is it a contractual job or a permanent position?</p>
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		<title>By: Nic</title>
		<link>http://www.nickcoyne.com/wp/2007/04/03/where-are-the-rails-developers/#comment-79</link>
		<dc:creator>Nic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:53:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Admittedly our advertising has all been of the cheap or no-cost variety, eg gumtree, our own website, clug, etc, but there&#039;s been ZERO interest. I refuse to pay employment agencies extortionate fees, so next step is a paid ad on careerweb.co.za.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Admittedly our advertising has all been of the cheap or no-cost variety, eg gumtree, our own website, clug, etc, but there&#8217;s been ZERO interest. I refuse to pay employment agencies extortionate fees, so next step is a paid ad on careerweb.co.za.</p>
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		<title>By: Stii</title>
		<link>http://www.nickcoyne.com/wp/2007/04/03/where-are-the-rails-developers/#comment-78</link>
		<dc:creator>Stii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nic,

The fact that you are willing to take on non-Rails experts and train them in Rails seems like a fantastic opportunity! I for one would love to take this opportunity, but I have my own business and are tied down in George, so for me to relocate is not really an option. Pity, since I would have loved the opportunity!

As a matter of interest, where did you advertise? I cannot imagine any PHP devs NOT grabbing opportunities like these!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nic,</p>
<p>The fact that you are willing to take on non-Rails experts and train them in Rails seems like a fantastic opportunity! I for one would love to take this opportunity, but I have my own business and are tied down in George, so for me to relocate is not really an option. Pity, since I would have loved the opportunity!</p>
<p>As a matter of interest, where did you advertise? I cannot imagine any PHP devs NOT grabbing opportunities like these!</p>
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